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ggm 7 hours ago [-]
Is this just a posh version of Millinarianism? I don't think so but I ask "why stop at 1800" and look at 1900 and 1700 and 1600 thinking there's signals every 100 years of a bit of Apple Cart upsetting.
Girls swooning over Beethoven and the fortepiano maestro tour europe.
coldtea 6 hours ago [-]
Because the analogy he makes is with Romanticism, a specific trend/movement, for which 1800 is roughly a good reference point, whereas 1600 is not.
ggm 6 hours ago [-]
And my point is that it's a label on a cyclical trend. But sure, he wanted to reason about romanticism specifically. He cuts off very early in the new century, and the romanticism presaged a 50year cycle of revolution and revolt against the congress of Vienna. The tide swung back and forth.
coldtea 5 hours ago [-]
>And my point is that it's a label on a cyclical trend
Not so sure about that. Romanticism isn't related to Millinarianism conceptually or otherwise. The former was a re-adoption of a hollistic medieval stance on life and nature.
If you mean "some cultural things change every now and then, so a trend changing is nothing new", maybe, but it's a much smaller claim than that we see a rebirt of Romanticism specifically.
defrost 5 hours ago [-]
I'm not convinced Beethoven had contemporary groupies tossing him their muffs.
Girls swooning over Beethoven and the fortepiano maestro tour europe.
Not so sure about that. Romanticism isn't related to Millinarianism conceptually or otherwise. The former was a re-adoption of a hollistic medieval stance on life and nature.
If you mean "some cultural things change every now and then, so a trend changing is nothing new", maybe, but it's a much smaller claim than that we see a rebirt of Romanticism specifically.
Liszt, however ...
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisztomania
* (NSFW?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJ_ncxXung
>Imagine people deciding that the good life starts with NOT learning how to code.
you monkey pawed it.